Tuesday, July 31, 2018

Super Roster Maker - Nintendo vs. Capcom


Nintendo vs. Capcom is a topic I’ve covered on here before. The idea of two of the best-known studios in classic and modern gaming coming together for one big fighting game project is a dream game for many and if it is ever announced, it is sure to garner lots of attention.

After watching a review video relating to a different fighting game, I recently came to an idea as to how a roster like this might be built. The video will be linked below, but it basically states that the characters added fall into four different categories. They are:

1 - the icons/biggest characters for each studio’s biggest series
2 - characters involved in previous fighting games and were either popular or top-tier picks
3 - characters representing series that are currently relevant and successful or have a new high-profile project currently under development
4 - wild card characters that are either developer favorites, fan favorites, or have potential for a creative or wacky move-set idea or presentation

(I can't insert the video, so here's the link.)

Using those categories, we can piece together a viable hypothetical roster for Nintendo vs. Capcom. To keep things fair, a series can only have a maximum of 4 characters, but spin-off series, like Donkey Kong Country or Mega Man X, can count as their own separate series.

Part 1: The Icons


This will probably be the shortest section. For this, we will pull one character each from each studio’s biggest franchises. For Nintendo, the big three are Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, and Pokemon, and for Capcom, the big three are Mega Man, Street Fighter, and Resident Evil.

The picks are:



Mario (Super Mario) 
Link (The Legend of Zelda) 
Charizard (Pokemon)



Mega Man (Mega Man)
Ryu (Street Fighter)
Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil)

The first two for each company were probably a given, but the last ones may need some explaining. Pikachu may be the mascot of the Pokemon franchise, but for a fighting game where most of the combatants are in a size range comparable to average humans, Pikachu may be a bit too small for main consideration in an outing like this, so his spot was given to a larger Pokemon that was just as popular, if not more so, Charizard. As for Leon Kennedy, Resident Evil 4, which Leon is the main character in, is widely regarded as one of the best games of all-time by different sources and it started out as an exclusive for the Nintendo GameCube. So, the main character of a very successful game with a strong connection to Nintendo; a strong case for inclusion here.

Part 2: The Fighters


To figure out these characters, we’re looking at Eventhubs, a website for fighting game news and competitive guides for fighting games old and new. Eventhubs features up-to-date tier lists for different games as well as popularity lists showing pick rates for a roster’s characters. 

For this section, we’ll choose 4 Nintendo fighting games and 4 Capcom fighting games, then use Eventhubs’ lists to choose the number one most popular character and the number one highest tier character to add to our roster. Though if a game has third party guest characters, those will be ignored. If a game isn’t featured for one or both lists, an alternate method of selection will be chosen and explained below.

Our 4 Nintendo games are Super Smash Bros. Melee, Super Smash Bros. 4, Pokken Tournament DX, and ARMS, as all are currently supported or popular fighting games. The case is the same for our 4 Capcom games, Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite, Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Street Fighter V, and Darkstalkers 3. By taking just two characters per game, that will give us 8 total for each side.

The picks here are:


For Super Smash Bros. Melee: Marth (Fire Emblem) & Fox McCloud (Star Fox)



For Super Smash Bros. 4: Captain Falcon (F-Zero) & Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong Country)


For Pokken Tournament DX: Lucario & Mewtwo


For ARMS: Twintelle & Min Min


For Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite: Jedah Dohma (Darkstalkers) & Dante (Devil May Cry)

For Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Zero (Mega Man X) & Nathan Spencer (Bionic Commando)

For Street Fighter V: Karin Kanzuki & Cammy White


For Darkstalkers 3: Morrigan Aensland & Lord Raptor

For most of these characters, it was easy. They were either at the top of the popularity or tiers lists or close to the top. Eventhubs didn’t have popularity lists for Darkstalkers 3 or Pokken Tournament DX, but Morrigan was chosen as the “popular” character since she seems to be a favored addition for Capcom crossover games anyway and Lucario was chosen as he was in the top 3 for the tier list and has been a consistently popular Pokemon (see his inclusion in the Smash Bros. series if you need further proof).


Since ARMS isn’t featured at all on Eventhubs, a character poll on the site Nintendo Life (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/05/poll_who_is_your_favourite_arms_fighter) showed that Twintelle was the most popular character and a community tier list found on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ARMS/comments/8hikdz/results_of_arms_tier_list_poll_may_2018/) showed that Min Min, who placed second on the popularity list, is also a high-ranking powerful character.

Part 3: The Stars


In what is likely to be another short section, there will be one character pulled from each of the series listed here, each being a significant character from those series. A list of recent and future releases (https://www.giantbomb.com/capcom/3010-367/published/) shows the series that Capcom is currently paying attention to include Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, Mega Man, Mega Man X, Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, Dead Rising, and Ace Attorney. Meanwhile, the series currently listed on Nintendo’s own website as having best-selling games for the Nintendo Switch and 3DS include Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Splatoon, Donkey Kong Country, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem with some notable future releases including a new Metroid game and DLC for the current Xenoblade Chronicles game.

The Nintendo picks are:



Bowser (Super Mario)

Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda)



Agent 3 (Splatoon)

Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong Country)



Decidueye (Pokemon)

Robin (Fire Emblem)



Samus Aran (Metroid)

Rex (Xenoblade Chronicles)

Bowser and Ganondorf made it in as the main villains of their respective series, Samus and Donkey Kong made it in as the main heroes of their respective series, Rex is the main character of the most recent Xenoblade game, Agent 3 is now a recurring character in the Splatoon series (with a boss battle in Splatoon 2 now giving her/him a confirmed set of weapons and skills to work with), Robin represents the modern Fire Emblem games with Marth representing the classic era, and Decidueye is a popular Pokemon with the current Gen 7 games.

The Capcom picks are:


Vergil (Devil May Cry)

Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)



Dr. Wily (Mega Man)

Sigma (Mega Man X)



Akuma (Street Fighter)

Monster Hunter (Monster Hunter)



Frank West (Dead Rising)

Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)

The first five made it in as the main antagonists of their respective series, Frank and Phoenix make it in as recurring protagonists of their series, and a Monster Hunter makes it in to represent the different kinds of hunters that players can use in the games (like the Monster Hunter in Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite).

Part 4: The Wild Cards


For this section, we will be adding two of each of the previously mentioned kinds of wild card characters, with each side getting two developer favorites, two fan favorites, and two characters with experimental move-sets. For extra appeal, the experimental characters will be from more obscure series that neither company has utilized in a while, because part of the draw of these rosters is seeing what characters will be revived for these games.





Nintendo Dev Favs: Wolf O’Donnel (Star Fox) & Kirby (Kirby)
For Nintendo, the developers focused on were Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto and Smash Bros. director Masahiro Sakurai. Miyamoto has said on different occasions that he wishes the Star Fox series was more popular and Sakurai’s main series to work on apart from Smash Bros. has been the Kirby series. Taking one character from each game gives us Fox’s main rival from Star Fox, Wolf O’Donnel, and Kirby from the Kirby series. As I stated in a previous article, to remedy any concerns about Kirby being too small, equipping him with one of the mechs from the game Kirby: Planet Robobot would put him more with the other characters size-wise.


Capcom Dev Favs: Mike Haggar (Final Fight) & Batsu Ichimonji (Rival Schools)
The developers focused on for Capcom were Street Fighter producer Yoshinori Ono and Capcom fighting game director Hideaki Itsuno. The bulk of Ono’s experience in gaming is with Street Fighter and while the series itself has already hit its maximum here with 4 characters, Mike Haggar from Final Fight would serve as a good nod to Ono, as Final Fight has heavily crossed over with Street Fighter as of recent games. For Itsuno, the fighting series Rival Schools was one of the earlier series he worked on and he has hinted at different times at an interest in reviving the series, so the series’ main character Batsu Ichimonji would make sense as a roster addition here.


Nintendo Fan Favs: Zelda (The Legend of Zelda) & Luigi (Super Mario)


Capcom Fan Favs: Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) & Arthur (Ghosts N Goblins)
The case is the same here for both Nintendo and Capcom. Numerous fan polls have consistently listed these characters as being very popular, even reaching the top 10 on many of the lists relating to their studios.


Nintendo Experimental Characters: Isaac (Golden Sun) & Andy (Advance Wars)
Best known for their time on Nintendo handhelds, the main characters from Golden Sun and Advance Wars are still popular among fans who fondly remember their games. Isaac can not only use a sword, but also Psynergy abilities to not only attack the opponent but also potentially manipulate the battlefield. Andy, being a more militaristic character can call in potential aid from infantry, tanks, or other vehicles seen in the Advance Wars games.


Capcom Experimental Characters: Rei (Breath of Fire) & Zack & Wiki (Zack & Wiki)
There were a few characters who could represent the Breath of Fire series, with Breath of Fire 3 being one of its more popular entries, but since there already is a “Ryu” in the game and Nina seems like a bit less of a fighter than some other characters, Rei seemed like the next logical choice, with a good mechanic for him being to call in some of his allies for different moves and combos, including Ryu and Nina. As for Zack & Wiki, the stars of a high-ranking but low-selling game on the Wii, Zack could be the main fighter, with Wiki assisting him in some moves, and they both could use items and puzzle elements from their game as attacks or battlefield manipulation.

FINAL RESULTS

So, now, we have our final roster. Both sides have 25 characters, giving us an even roster of 50. If that seems like a big number, it’s the same size as the final version of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and smaller than the roster of the upcoming Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Also, keep in mind, that for a game as highly anticipated as Nintendo vs. Capcom might be, the developers would probably want to give gamers more bang for their buck.

 Emphasis on the bang.

Nintendo Side: Mario, Bowser, Luigi, Link, Ganondorf, Zelda, Charizard, Lucario, Mewtwo, Decidueye, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Marth, Robin, Fox, Wolf, Twintelle, Min Min, Samus, Kirby, Captain Falcon, Agent 3, Rex, Isaac, Andy

Capcom Side: Mega Man, Dr. Wily, Ryu, Karin, Cammy, Akuma, Leon, Wesker, Jill, Morrigan, Jedah, Lord Raptor, Dante, Vergil, Zero, Sigma, Spencer, Monster Hunter, Frank West, Phoenix Wright, Haggar, Batsu, Arthur, Rei, Zack & Wiki

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A custom-made roster like this is sure to leave out a lot of people’s favorite characters. (Heck, if I were to just pick my own favorite characters to put in here instead of setting up rules and guidelines, this roster would look very different.) So, what are your thoughts on this article? What characters would you choose for Nintendo vs. Capcom? Would you set up guidelines for inclusion or just pick your favorites? Make your voice heard in the comments below. Thanks for coming!

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